tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18173351.post116537311154763586..comments2023-11-11T21:26:46.689+00:00Comments on This Side of Sunday: What Happened At Bethelehem?Jon Couttshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01728055140831842717noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18173351.post-1165418385837043702006-12-06T15:19:00.000+00:002006-12-06T15:19:00.000+00:00i think i get what you are saying bcmatt. tanti ra...i think i get what you are saying bcmatt. tanti raises a good question. some in my Barth reading group were sharing the idea that before the fall there may have been some sort of bodily presence of God in the world. (Someone, maybe the second member of the trintity, walking in the garden in the cool of the day). So the reasoning goes that the incarnation is God taking on sinful humanity to redeem it.<BR/><BR/>but then i'm not sure that helps my original thought much, nor am i sure it answers tanti's question. something to think about.<BR/><BR/>I would be interested to pursue this idea further which is one reason i threw it out there. the other is that it seems we don't think much about how significant it is that GOd would choose this reality from before Creation: to create people in order to dwell with them.Jon Couttshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01728055140831842717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18173351.post-1165377785258962332006-12-06T04:03:00.000+00:002006-12-06T04:03:00.000+00:00Hey! I was thinking about this as well in the last...Hey! I was thinking about this as well in the last few weeks. I got onto it from reading Perelandra by CS Lewis. Embarrassingly, I don't remember if that book specifically suggests it, but it caused the thought in me at least. I would imagine that the incarnation in this case (without a fall) would mean that something is really stepped up a full notch in the relationship with humanity. I would think that Christ would have stayed too and the world would be like what we still look forward to in the Parousia. Like for us; we lost A, but then we got B, and A is (being) repaired, and we expect to have A and B fully in the future together. But in the scenario we talk about; we never lose A, so when B comes, there was no more wait to fully have A and B in the world. Hmm, sad that I refuse to explain what I mean any better than that. (or perhaps a relief)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18173351.post-1165376217098497252006-12-06T03:36:00.000+00:002006-12-06T03:36:00.000+00:00Would this line of thinking imply that something w...Would this line of thinking imply that something was missing in the relationship between God and humanity even before the Fall?Tony Tantihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14619319927519736211noreply@blogger.com